Cate Steel with Dr Jonathan David Wells | The Kidnapping Club: New York’...

In this powerful conversation, Cate Steel sits down with historian Dr Jonathan David Wells, author of The Kidnapping Club, to uncover the uncomfortable truths about slavery in the North, Wall Street’s dependence on the cotton economy, the destruction of Seneca Village, and the modern parallels to ICE and immigration policy today.

Dr Jonathan David Wells breaks down how New York, Connecticut, Massachusetts, and other northern states profited from slavery long after it was outlawed locally — through banks, insurance companies, shipping industries, and political alliances.

They also explore the bravery of abolitionists like David Ruggles, the rise of the Vigilance Committees, and the ongoing fight against injustice in America.

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